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Source: CDU CSU

Mister President! Dear Colleagues! Colleague Kindler, I think getting into debt is a bit flat. That’s neither sexy nor cool. I’ll also tell you why I feel that way: it may be that we are socialized differently. I am a refugee child and in the GDR era we could only use as much as we had. This is how I am socialized, mother: seamstress, father: shipbuilder. Maybe that still shapes me today. I am actually glad that a good decade ago, back in the financial crisis, this German Bundestag introduced the debt brake as it is today. Because if you are already talking about sustainability, the topic of climate also includes sustainability in budget and financial policy. Both are intergenerational justice. Both belong together.

(Applause from the CDU / CSU and the FDP as well as from members of the SPD)

Dear colleagues, the 2009/2010 financial crisis is always compared with the current corona crisis and we see how we got out of it back then.

(Heike Hänsel [DIE LINKE]: Those are milk boy bills!)

The debts in the years 2003 to 2013 amounted to a good 300 billion euros. This and next year it will be 314 billion euros. There is only one huge difference – there are even several – between 2009/2010 and today: Yes, we had a budget of 300 billion euros and new debt of 86 billion euros. But in five calendar years the new debt has fallen to zero; because – firstly – there was no increase in spending during that time.

(Otto Fricke [FDP]: Exactly!)

Second – and this will not be the case this time, Mr Scholz – interest expenditure has been around 12 billion euros for years, currently at 9.7 billion euros. At that time they were around 40 billion euros and have fallen gradually, piece by piece. In the first year of 2010, we had economic growth of 4.1 percent; In 2011 it was 3.9 percent. That means: in two years the base has increased very quickly. – According to the forecast, we will have growth of 4.4 percent next year.

(Matthias W. Birkwald [DIE LINKE]: To a much higher gross domestic product!)

But the expenses in the old and in the new financial planning are growing significantly.

(Otto Fricke [FDP]: That’s how it is!)

And: Generating this growth in the following years will, I believe, be difficult. That is why we in the Union are not talking about saving. Saving is not the issue.

But, dear colleagues, I think that keeping things moderate is the issue.

(Applause from the CDU / CSU and the FDP)

That is why it is also correct, colleague Kindler, that there is a brake on getting into debt and that it means that what is included about the suspension of the debt settlement under Article 115 of the Basic Law must also be repaid. I am already in favor of this generation paying off the debts that it is responsible for today,

(Bettina Stark-Watzinger [FDP]: Very correct!)

and that one does not take periods of 40 or 50 years and thus postpone it to the next generation and the one after that. It is a simple policy, Mr Kindler, to push away the burdens that are caused today. But that is not a Union policy at this point.

(Applause from the CDU / CSU and the FDP as well as from members of the SPD)

As people complain here that we are doing too little for the climate: Dear colleagues, take a look at the energy and climate fund. This year we have an allocation of a good 26 billion euros. A good 26 billion euros will be available in this fund next year. I believe it is right – that is also “social policy” – to provide 10.8 billion euros for stabilizing network charges.

In the direction of the FDP. The relief of almost 11 billion euros plus 17 billion euros – solos plus increase in child benefits – means, in particular, relief for those with lower and lower incomes in the coming year. Don’t tell us how we should do social policy and how we should relieve the citizens! We can do that all on our own.

(Applause from the CDU / CSU and members of the SPD)

Colleague Rohde went into detail about where and how we invest.

What I find really exciting is what hit my desk earlier. Otto Fricke said: We promise what we can keep. – That’s a tray, dear colleague Fricke. I did a quick estimate and came up with 50 billion euros in tax relief that the FDP wants to implement structurally in the next few years.

(Carsten Schneider [Erfurt] [SPD]: Incredible! – Otto Fricke [FDP]: Like the CDU! Like Mr. Söder!)

With the abolition of the solos and the middle class belly, I come to over 50 billion euros.

Incidentally, the counter calculation is very exciting at this point.

(Carsten Schneider [Erfurt] [SPD]: He’s definitely doing that sustainably!)

I am a big fan of the maternal pension

(Otto Fricke [FDP]: I or II?)

– in the -,

(Otto Fricke [FDP]: Ah!)

for two reasons: first. I was never able to explain to my wife that she would not get a maternal pension because our children were born before 1992. Secondly. Do you know why old-age poverty is so low in the east? Especially because of the mothers pension.

(Otto Fricke [FDP]: But that also applies to those who have worked!)

– Yeah, sure. – In relative terms in the east we have only a quarter of the poverty in old age in the west, and one of the main reasons is the pensions of mothers. The mother’s pension has contributed to the fact that old-age poverty in the east is so low, especially among women.

(Otto Fricke [FDP]: These are two different services!)

We’d be powdered with the clip-on bag if we wanted to turn that back.

(Applause from the CDU / CSU and members of the SPD)

But the last point is particularly exciting for you. Since 1 billion euros is estimated for the regulated release of cannabis for self-determined and responsible consumption. Dear colleagues of the FDP, I would have written: Smoking weed against debt. – If you can’t think of anything else, I’m sorry at this point.

(Hilarity and applause from the CDU / CSU as well as from members of the SPD – Laughter from the FDP – Christian Dürr [FDP]: What kind of nonsense is that? – Alexander Dobrindt [CDU / CSU], turning to the FDP: That is Yes, embarrassing! – Otto Fricke [FDP]: In the next legislature you will decide about the Greens!

So, watch out: If you had at least made sure with this one billion euros that regional products were used in the intoxication area, then maybe I would have agreed.

(Laughter from members of the CDU / CSU and the FDP – Matthias W. Birkwald [DIE LINKE]: That’s a word!)

But apart from Mecklenburg herbal liqueur, I don’t put anything in the fridge.

(Matthias W. Birkwald [DIE LINKE]: Anyone as they want!)

Dear colleagues, back to the serious side of the hour. Of course there are reserves in this budget. I think it’s not okay, Mr. Scholz, that the remainder from 2016 – 9 billion euros – has grown to over 22 billion euros today,

(Otto Fricke [FDP]: Yes!)

of which 5 billion euros made more flexible. Why? Why doesn’t the Federal Ministry of Finance intervene? Why isn’t the departments tapped harder on the fingers at this point?

(Otto Fricke [FDP]: Very true!)

I think that is a task for the budget consultations.

(Applause from MPs of the CDU / CSU and MP Otto Fricke [FDP])

Another point is the outflows from the investment fund. Ms. Lötzsch, if the federal government concludes an administrative agreement with all 16 federal states and the federal states have the money at their disposal – according to the Königstein key or whatever – then you cannot blame the inability for the outflow of funds for these titles – with the DigitalPakt Schule, the school renovation program and, and, and – look for the federal government. This is the responsibility of the federal states and municipalities that receive the money and have to implement the measures, dear colleagues. Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania, for example, has not yet turned over a cent from the school renovation program, and our schools do not look exactly nice either. That is why we should make it clear that we are providing the federal states and municipalities with a total of over 100 billion euros in the federal budget. But the responsibility for the implementation does not lie with the federal government, but primarily with the states and municipalities, dear colleagues.

(Applause from the CDU / CSU and Abg. Otto Fricke [FDP])

Like all the other speakers from the political groups, I am looking forward to intensive budget discussions. Peter Struck’s word applies: No law leaves the Bundestag as it was introduced.

Thank you very much.

(Applause from the CDU / CSU)


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