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Source: CDU, CSU,

Madam President, Ladies and gentlemen, We deal with the status determination procedure. Three or four weeks ago, we discussed here already a similar application of the FDP

(Frank Sitta [FDP]: He was rejected!)

I looked up “Rubicon”, and I noticed that there is practically only one difference, namely that in the first request of the FDP, Dr. Sattelberger has been forgotten.

(Loud laughter and applause from the CDU/CSU, the SPD, the LEFT and ALLIANCE 90/THE GREENS)

And therefore, there is a new application.

(Ulli Nissen [SPD]: Stop! Hear!)

Obviously you are of the FDP not in agreement

(Ulli Nissen [SPD]: The fits to the carnival!)

Dear Johannes bird, I just noticed: So, obviously you have of the FDP now have a left and a right Department for the treatment of individual questions. This is really excellent.

(Applause from the CDU/CSU as well as from members of the SPD, Michael Grosse-Brömer [CDU/CSU]: that is Almost like a people’s party!)

A lot of fun! But – and I say this very seriously: The time is actually a shame to have the almost same template of a fraction is the same under the two agenda items to discuss, because there’s usually not much New out can come.

(John bird [Olpe] [FDP]: Because your not listening!)

It is, of course, that the Federal government is preoccupied with this question

It calls for a positive list. The FDP has done on the left side and right side thinking

(Markus Kurth [ALLIANCE 90/THE GREENS]: That’s right! Because he’s right!)

A positive list means that there is a distinction to be made. So, ladies and gentlemen of the FDP, it will eventually also give in turn may be disputes about whether someone is to be assessed as self-employed or as an employee or as someone who has worked in workers of a similar activity. This means, ultimately, strife.

Although you would like to in their assessment of the scheme, to say the least, very subjective setting, I point out that in the case of all litigation in the past year, 65 percent of the applications, a positive verb distinction have been. In the previous year it was 62 percent. So, I don’t see the Problem at all. I believe that we will also have a new procedure, similar results, namely that in the case of court decisions, the decisions of the pension insurance companies are confirmed to 70 percent. The Whole thing is a similar case.

That there may be errors in an assessment, is human and is in the nature of the thing. This is unfortunate and may be straightened in a further process. But everything, what you propose would not mean that we then have a perfect world and a perfect assessment.

Vice-President Claudia Roth:

Mr. Straubinger, allow you take a question?

Max Straubinger (CDU / CSU):

Moment. – If you think you are alone with an income scheme, the self-employment to adequately measure, then I ask: What income should be the basis? Even before this question, you Express yourself.

Vice-President Claudia Roth:

Mr. Straubinger, allow you take a question or remark of Mr. Hebner?

Max Straubinger (CDU / CSU):

Yes, please.

Martin Hebner (AfD):

Mr. Straubinger, thank you for the permission of the question. – You have so described, nice and really very entertaining, just that the applications are similar. But the question is still: when do you do what? Because if you say it will be granted by the courts in a positive – 62 per cent, 65 per cent, then it is very clear that there is urgent need of a legal correction is required. We can’t go on like this. What you describe at the moment, is that It people orders to go and get then in the case of a very clear decision that they were classified as “likely to slip independently”. This creates enormous Trouble. This creates tremendous uncertainty. This often leads to interruptions of projects. That’s what you want? Do you see that as normal? Here too, urgent Action is required.

You say that you think now for the first time. As long as you want because, think about it? How long the Federal government will change their mind? The several legislative periods to take now. This is a memorable condition.

Vice-President Claudia Roth:

Well. The question is arrived. – Mr. Straubinger.

Max Straubinger (CDU / CSU):

Mr Hebner, it is always also questions of Demarcation, and delimitation questions are not so easy to choose

(Dr. Matthias room [CDU/CSU]: To AfD already!)

how to do it, for example, in a loose discussion. You do not act responsibly – that is quite clear – in the case here, as I see it.

(Michael Grosse-Brömer [CDU/CSU]: they have no proposals at all! – Gegenruf of the Abg. Beate Müller-Gemmeke [ALLIANCE 90/THE GREENS]: Yes, you have no idea how you want to make!)

You have to realize: We are working on it.

(Martin Hebner [AfD]: How many terms?)

We are interested in that for both parties, Mr Hebner, legal certainty: for the Freelancer as well as for the company, which employs a Freelancer. This is crucial. As there are no corresponding criteria which we have set now.

I can read you the text of the law Yes. It is said in the law, the Definition of self-employed work:

Employment is the labour employed, especially in a work relationship. Evidence of employment is an activity under the direction and integration in the work organisation of the Instruction switch.

So far, So good, or maybe bad

But you, dear colleagues of the FDP, press Yes to the formulations. You could deliver a bill. Press the formulations.

(Metin Hakverdi [SPD]: Exactly!)

Do you think you would see better demarcation criteria,

(Applause from deputies of the CDU/CSU and the SPD)

for all employment relationships, not only for the Freelancer but for all, for the whole width of the reality of working life, would find? As you Express yourself.

Therefore: It is nice that we have discussed on the application. But I have to Agree a plea to colleagues: first, whether the left or the right Department may bring a request.

(Michael Grosse-Brömer [CDU/CSU]: A common request would be good too!)

If a request is made, it would be nice if all the relevant persons, including Dr. h. c. Sattel Berger, would be there.

Thank You Very Much.

(Applause from the CDU/CSU as well as from members of the SPD)


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